I have 2 complete sets of HECS, except for the bottomland camouflage. Im missing those pants since they are made to match. My other green camouflage set I own the hecs style green and the slip on pants I wore twice. When I attempted to put these pants on as a baseline, the right knee gave out and a huge hole where my knee is located is now there. I own just about every line of quality clothing out there, and this is an understatement. These pants didn't hold up and I baby my clothes. These were a disappointment!